I really enjoyed our discussion this afternoon; a great start to the semester. You brought up questions and ways of looking at their answers that were fresh and insightful. What were our basic questions? To summarize:
- What IS law? What is it supposed to do?
- How do social forces influence or even force change in the law?
- Can immoral law be valid and binding? (slavery)
- Does the law have to make moral claims?
- What is justice? Can law be unjust? (slavery) Can justice ever be unlawful?
- Were the LAPD officers beating Rodney King in fact “doing” law?
A few thoughts on these questions, and some clarity. What is law? The command of the sovereign backed by sanction. In the U.S. context, the sovereign is “We the people.” So in a way, we are obeying ourselves when we obey the law. This is a thin definition. A thicker one would have to include aspirations, and it would have to include morality. Law has a contingent but not necessary relationship to morality.
What is justice? We should think about this more deeply. Lindsay offered that it should include equal standing before the law. We might think of it as the proper treatment of other people, but we would then still need to define “proper” in this context. We also might consider three different kinds of justice:
- Distributive: Justice that distributes equally (or fairly) wealth, resources, divisible goods.
- Corrective: You agreed to give me $3,000 for my car, I gave you my car, I didn’t get $3,000. Corrective justice extracts that $3,000 from you or punishes you for not paying it (or both).
- Reciprocal: We both decide my car is worth $3,000. You give me $3,000; I give you my car.
By midnight Monday (Jan. 18), I’d like you to respond to a few things — your choice. First, Habermas’s statement (and book title) that “the law exists between facts and norms,” a sort of twilight zone. Law isn’t fact, and it can only strive for norms, or seek to mirror them. What does this make the law, or how does this influence what the law can and cannot do?
Do you have to be convinced of the moral validity of the law before it merits your allegiance? Why or why not?
Why do you obey the law and, when and where you don’t, why don’t you? Walk us through your decision process and rationalization.
Is evil every right? Ooh, this is a great one. Platonic. Can you ward off evil with or by evil, and should you? These were questions salient during the Civil Rights Movement in America, and, if the U.S. financial sector doesn’t get its head out of its own ass, they might become salient again.
Finally, as you read the two cases I assigned (and the torture memos), really think about this question: What is the rule of law? When you hear this phrase, what does it mean to you? We (the United States) like to say that we live under “the rule of law.” Or, we are a society “of the law,” meaning the same thing, however vaguely. What do we mean? (Hint: It might have much to do with how we “constitute” ourselves, legally. The U.S. Constitution.)